Subject: Re: The Crystal Ball Prediction Thread Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:08 pm
I'm not so sure the remaining classes will share planets, It would make sense if they were going to share a lot of quests but thats not whats going to happen, each class is going to have its own storyline and have a few instance style missions thay can colaborate on.
I think it'll depend if they can fit seperate class stories onto one world, Ord Mantall is in the grips of a civil war (trooper) and a crime hub (smuggler) so both classes can play it, with Tython being the Jedi origin world I'm not sure what other class you could add to it as its so specific, maybe a noble class but I'd expect them to be on Coruscant.
If there is a Spy/Assasin class I would expect them to be on Korriban rather than Nal Hutta personally but also if there is a Noble class the Moffs could easily fit on Korriban story wise and the spys would make a great fit on Coruscant maybe along side the Nobles? I mean if theres not going to be much story interaction between classes anyway could you have two different Factions on one world?
Subject: Re: The Crystal Ball Prediction Thread Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:54 pm
I think the remaining classes will share planets, due to some of the stuff I've seen around the net. For example check out 01:58 on the following video:
"So far, with Star Wars:The Old Republic we've talked about four planets that are the origin worlds for the characters as you start the game.."
OK technically you pick up on the point he says "so far" implying there may be more, but I personally read that as there will be more planets in the game in total, not more starting planets. Its the fact he says "four planets that are the origin worlds for the characters as you start the game"
If he had said "four OF the origin worlds for the characters..." then yeah, I'd say we can expect more "starting area planets" at launch.
I reckon more planets will be available, just you'll need to get to them as you progress.
Using World of Warcraft as an example (sorry all you WOW-haters, but I have hump-loads of experience with that game so I'm gonna quote it ), when the original game launched, before any expansion packs, there were a total of 8 characters, 4 per faction (sounds familiar? )
You had:
Alliance - Human, Dwarf, Gnome, Night Elf
Horde - Orc, Undead, Troll, Tauren
When you created a character, not every race started alone. Sure, some did, but not all:
Human: Started at Elwynn Forest Dwarf: Started at Dun Morogh Gnome: Started at Dun Morogh Night Elf: Started at Teldrassil Orc: Started at Durotar Undead: Started at Tirisfal Glades Troll: Started at Durotar Shaman: Started at Mulgore
So as you can see, races (or more importantly Classes in SWTOR) do often share starting areas in mmos. This builds community and saves the developers a shed-load of time.
Its not completely unfeasable to imagine that BioWare might reveal more starting planets, but I don't think its likely. I think we get those four to choose from at the start and then move onto other worlds as the game progresses.
In addition to this, if you look at the HoloNet page of SWTOR concerning the planets HERE you'll see that there are no empty slots available to fill, its just the four planets.
If you look at the class section instead HERE, you can see that there are 5 "empty slots" denoting more classes to come (ok, really that should be 3 empty slots because we pretty much know for sure 1 is Jedi and 1 is Sith, but still).
Subject: Re: The Crystal Ball Prediction Thread Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:24 pm
THE TIMELINE
Also I think I've discovered more evidence to suggest the game may be further away from launch that a lot of people on the net seem to think.
It comes from the "TimeLine" section of Holonet.
If you go to "The Treaty Of Coruscant" (link is here) you'll notice that along the very top are tiny tags, they look like this:
(excuse the arrow, I couldnt be arsed to do something decent!)
It puts "The Treaty of Coruscant" at ATC 0 and then the timeline videos go backward ("The Mandalorian Blockade is broken" at BTC 7 and "The Return of the Manadalorians" at BTC
In other words, the next Timeline Video will be "The Empire Changes Strategy" BTC 14
If we follow that pattern then we have 16 more timeline videos to go, for a total of 19.
So far We've seen:
The Treaty of Cosuscant (ATC 0) (Timeline video #1) The Mandalorian Blockade is broken (BTC 7) (Timeline video #2) The Return of the Mandalorians (BTC (Timeline video #3)
So imo it stands to reason, we have to see the following before launch:
The Empire Changes Strategy (BTC 14) The Battle of Bothawui (BTC 18) Onslaught of the Sith Empire (BTC 28) Peace for the Republic (BTC 103) The Jedi Civil War (BTC 303) The Mandalorian Wars (BTC 311) The Exar Kun War (BTC 347) Resurrection of the Sith Empire (BTC 1251) The Great Hyperspace War (BTC 1347) The First Dark Sith Lords on Korriban (BTC 3,247) The Second Great Jedi Schizm (BTC 3,347) The Jedi Join the Republic (BTC 21300) Founding of the Republic (BTC 21400) The Jedi Order is established (BTC 22130) The Force War on Tython (BTC 22140)
and
Force "Discovered" on Tython (BTC 32800)
Now with these videos being shown more than one month apart to me suggests that it will be quite some time before the game is launched.
Subject: Re: The Crystal Ball Prediction Thread Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:28 pm
Ah! But they said that they'll have some videos coming in after the game has launched (not sure were though ). So I think that we'll see around 10 before they release the game (8 more then). Of course, that means that we'll be waiting around a year *groan*.
Subject: Re: The Crystal Ball Prediction Thread Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:10 pm
I'd think if they were looking at doing pre-launch and then post-launch vidoes, it would make sense to stop at The Exar Kun War (BTC 347).
There's a big o' gap between that and Resurrection of the Sith Empire (BTC 1251) so in some respects you could consider everything before BTC 350 to be "recent"(ish) history and anything after BTC 1251 to be "lore" (or ancient history).
Subject: Re: The Crystal Ball Prediction Thread Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:58 pm
You never know you might wake up one friday and they have released more Info then normal (I know that won't happen but hey you never know) say a race and planet together.
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Subject: Re: The Crystal Ball Prediction Thread Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:07 pm
:deleted: until I can actually write and understandalbe comment....
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Subject: Re: The Crystal Ball Prediction Thread Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:21 pm
I read a very informative post from a guy on the Bioware forums a little while back and he actually went through the financial sheets for Bioware/EA (ya I know, some people are nuts ), anyway he checked out the projections for profit and stuff and made some very believable presumptions there. If I remember correctly (getting a bit late here to post) there was no profit calculated for TOR in 2009 or the first quarter of 2010, of course the game wouldn't make a profit from day one probably, but it looked a lot like they wanted to release ME2 first amongst other things (probably to help fund start-up running costs of the TOR servers).
Anyhow ... all that conjecture would lead to a release date earliest in Spring, but more realistically Summer 2010. Not my dream come true, but it made sense when I saw it
Now if only I could remember where he posted that ...
P.S. on an unrelated side-note, Lotro has got a freebie welcome back week thingie, I jumped in and I gotta say, I liked it. Not sure if I'll bother re-subbing, but all this TOR is forcing me to look for a distraction!